Comments for "Peace is the virtue of civilization. War is its crime." http://rooyj.edublogs.org It's time to think for ourselves... Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:30:02 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 Comment on The Relief From War by Final Post | WAR AND PEACE http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Final Post | WAR AND PEACE Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:30:02 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/#comment-15 [...] http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/#comments [...] [...] http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/#comments [...]

]]> Comment on The Courtesy of War by whitepe http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/04/16/the-courtesy-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-14 whitepe Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:05:39 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/04/16/the-courtesy-of-war/#comment-14 So are you suggesting books for bombs? Basically instead of running and gunning our way through Iraq and Afghanistan we should actually acting more like a construction crew. I like that idea, but I do not think it (the war in Iraq and Afghanistan) has reached a point at which our army can start doing those types of things. What we need to do is get the Iraq army in some type of workable unites so they can do the security while our good old boys build those schools and roads. I often times wonder if we will ever get the point in which we will be able to actually build something there without someone there trying to knock it down. I do identify with the troops though. I know if I was in Iraq right now, every time I was in a car outside the base, I would drive that thing like there was no tomorrow and the reality is, if I do not drive that car like that it just means it is more likely that there will be no tomorrow. Watching out for everything at all times would be very exhausting and mistakes are bound to happen, how are we going to win this war if mistakes cost so much? So are you suggesting books for bombs? Basically instead of running and gunning our way through Iraq and Afghanistan we should actually acting more like a construction crew. I like that idea, but I do not think it (the war in Iraq and Afghanistan) has reached a point at which our army can start doing those types of things. What we need to do is get the Iraq army in some type of workable unites so they can do the security while our good old boys build those schools and roads. I often times wonder if we will ever get the point in which we will be able to actually build something there without someone there trying to knock it down.
I do identify with the troops though. I know if I was in Iraq right now, every time I was in a car outside the base, I would drive that thing like there was no tomorrow and the reality is, if I do not drive that car like that it just means it is more likely that there will be no tomorrow. Watching out for everything at all times would be very exhausting and mistakes are bound to happen, how are we going to win this war if mistakes cost so much?

]]> Comment on The Courtesy of War by roodme http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/04/16/the-courtesy-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-13 roodme Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:58:26 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/04/16/the-courtesy-of-war/#comment-13 I agree, I would also be furious if I heard about my hometown being blown to smithereens by some other country who is supposedly here to help. I hope that would never happen here in US, but ya never know. I've been thinking about that same scene in Born on the 4th of July probably almost every day since we watched it, and I can't get over when they just left them there. It is unfortunate that we have been helping so many countries and different people for hundreds of years, and yet we still don't completely treat them like our own. I agree with you, if they just took a second to slow down things might improve, and the people we are trying to help might like us just a little bit more. I agree, I would also be furious if I heard about my hometown being blown to smithereens by some other country who is supposedly here to help. I hope that would never happen here in US, but ya never know. I’ve been thinking about that same scene in Born on the 4th of July probably almost every day since we watched it, and I can’t get over when they just left them there. It is unfortunate that we have been helping so many countries and different people for hundreds of years, and yet we still don’t completely treat them like our own.
I agree with you, if they just took a second to slow down things might improve, and the people we are trying to help might like us just a little bit more.

]]> Comment on The Melody Of War by If You Can’t Say Anything Nice… Share It With The World | Those who live with us are our brothers. http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/01/18/the-melody-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-12 If You Can’t Say Anything Nice… Share It With The World | Those who live with us are our brothers. Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:35:49 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/01/18/the-melody-of-war/#comment-12 [...] John [...] [...] John [...]

]]> Comment on The Relief From War by Katherine Light http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Katherine Light Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:59:13 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/#comment-11 John, you know how I feel about war. I agree with what you have to say about needing a break from the war and stuff. When you enter into the Army it seems like a potential soldier knows what its going to take and knows the sacrifices involved. War is not going to be fun, and its not going to be easy. When you sign on the dotted line you sign away your freedom for the next couple of years. One counter argument to my argument: the Army commercials do put a "fun" spin on it... with the soldiers riding on seadoos and throwing the football around. John, you know how I feel about war. I agree with what you have to say about needing a break from the war and stuff. When you enter into the Army it seems like a potential soldier knows what its going to take and knows the sacrifices involved. War is not going to be fun, and its not going to be easy. When you sign on the dotted line you sign away your freedom for the next couple of years. One counter argument to my argument: the Army commercials do put a “fun” spin on it… with the soldiers riding on seadoos and throwing the football around.

]]> Comment on The Melody Of War by Comments Post | Machiavelli Owns A Machine Gun Now http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/01/18/the-melody-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Comments Post | Machiavelli Owns A Machine Gun Now Wed, 16 Apr 2008 14:08:34 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/01/18/the-melody-of-war/#comment-10 [...] The Melody of War — by John [...] [...] The Melody of War — by John [...]

]]> Comment on The Beauty Of War by Pierce Wancour http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/02/13/the-beauty-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Pierce Wancour Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:06:46 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/02/13/the-beauty-of-war/#comment-9 Of course, dark times are what bring war and usually are what makes countries decide that war is really the only way to resolve a certain conflict. And it is very true that many evil things happen during war, and like Tim O'Brien mentions repeatedly the atrocities of war in his book "The Things They Carried." But he, like Suspect, does stop to take a minute to tell small stories here and there about short moments of beauty through the darkness that is war. The are the little moments that help people to continue on through the darkness and press on despite the hardships being presented. These are the moments that remind those involved in war that there is still beauty in the world and that maybe it is what's worth fighting for. These moments keep the soldiers going. Keep them from being engulfed completely in the evil that we inherently associated with war. Of course, dark times are what bring war and usually are what makes countries decide that war is really the only way to resolve a certain conflict. And it is very true that many evil things happen during war, and like Tim O’Brien mentions repeatedly the atrocities of war in his book “The Things They Carried.” But he, like Suspect, does stop to take a minute to tell small stories here and there about short moments of beauty through the darkness that is war. The are the little moments that help people to continue on through the darkness and press on despite the hardships being presented. These are the moments that remind those involved in war that there is still beauty in the world and that maybe it is what’s worth fighting for. These moments keep the soldiers going. Keep them from being engulfed completely in the evil that we inherently associated with war.

]]> Comment on The Relief From War by zod1703 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/comment-page-1/#comment-8 zod1703 Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:22:48 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/26/the-relief-from-war/#comment-8 Hay John I agree with a lot of what you have said the troops the do need time to be well being just everyday people, but they are in a profession that does not lend itself well to vacations! I have recently been part of a write the troops campaign partly do to the letters we read and the positive outcome they had and the other half because my cousin and a friends both have said the letter from home is worth more the two weeks R&R no need to set up any plans other then your rack and a few hours of well home! Hay John I agree with a lot of what you have said the troops the do need time to be well being just everyday people, but they are in a profession that does not lend itself well to vacations! I have recently been part of a write the troops campaign partly do to the letters we read and the positive outcome they had and the other half because my cousin and a friends both have said the letter from home is worth more the two weeks R&R no need to set up any plans other then your rack and a few hours of well home!

]]> Comment on The Beauty Of War by tranln http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/02/13/the-beauty-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-7 tranln Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:42:55 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/02/13/the-beauty-of-war/#comment-7 Watching the Youtube video that you have posted me realize something about people in America and why we may come to appreciate violence or why we are quick to go to the scene whenever there's an accident or tragedy happening. I have watched Cops and America's Most Wanted many times. I remember watching and getting a weird sensation out of it. It's like at a certain episode, I actually felt a desire or the need to see someone get arrested. But when it came to that part, i felt guilty because deep down I know that those people are good people too. They were put in a bad environment with bad opportunities. Trust me, America is not a land of opportunities for those who are seeking for it. It involves many things to get to those opportunities such has have a stable home where your parents provided you with shelter and food. Sometimes some people don't get that so when they get old they do get the same opportunities as others not because they were lazy but because they are still finding to get get the tools (money) to get those opportunities. But this topic is for another post. What I am trying to say is that we follow so much laws in our lives that we get a high when we see diaster or something that is disorganized or was not suppose to happen. We a get a sensation when we see accidents. We don't get a sensation when we see people get hurt (some do) but we like the oddities that occurs in life because everything around us is so organized. It's like we are robots. Watching the Youtube video that you have posted me realize something about people in America and why we may come to appreciate violence or why we are quick to go to the scene whenever there’s an accident or tragedy happening.

I have watched Cops and America’s Most Wanted many times. I remember watching and getting a weird sensation out of it. It’s like at a certain episode, I actually felt a desire or the need to see someone get arrested. But when it came to that part, i felt guilty because deep down I know that those people are good people too. They were put in a bad environment with bad opportunities. Trust me, America is not a land of opportunities for those who are seeking for it. It involves many things to get to those opportunities such has have a stable home where your parents provided you with shelter and food. Sometimes some people don’t get that so when they get old they do get the same opportunities as others not because they were lazy but because they are still finding to get get the tools (money) to get those opportunities. But this topic is for another post.

What I am trying to say is that we follow so much laws in our lives that we get a high when we see diaster or something that is disorganized or was not suppose to happen. We a get a sensation when we see accidents. We don’t get a sensation when we see people get hurt (some do) but we like the oddities that occurs in life because everything around us is so organized. It’s like we are robots.

]]> Comment on The Insanity Of War by tranln http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/25/the-insanity-of-war/comment-page-1/#comment-6 tranln Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:29:30 +0000 http://rooyj.edublogs.org/2008/03/25/the-insanity-of-war/#comment-6 I just saw the video clip and one of the soldiers says "hell yeah, it feels good. It makes you want to do it again.? See this is the type of of statement that I do not understand. Soldiers were brought into the field for a reason. They were brought because of some idiotic individual thought it was a good time to be in a position of leadership. So they pops his agenda out and starts making plans so that the people of the United States can feel good about it because revenge is a good feeling. So the soldiers go over there and fight the battle for them. Now they have forgotten that this war has no real enemy. There is a real enemy but really most of the people that they killed are actually good people. They too are fighting for some idiotic individual with an agenda. So when I hear lines such as I feel good when I kill an Iraqi, it makes me disgusted that they do not think about who they are shooting. It's like they are in a paint ball game where one shot and the other person goes out and you have scored a point for the team. This is real stuff. When a person is shot, they do not out of the game and then go back again for another game. They are out of the game permenantly. Sometimes, I just hope these soldiers who are over know realize that they are hurting citizens too and not just "liberating" them. I just saw the video clip and one of the soldiers says

“hell yeah, it feels good. It makes you want to do it again.?

See this is the type of of statement that I do not understand. Soldiers were brought into the field for a reason. They were brought because of some idiotic individual thought it was a good time to be in a position of leadership. So they pops his agenda out and starts making plans so that the people of the United States can feel good about it because revenge is a good feeling. So the soldiers go over there and fight the battle for them. Now they have forgotten that this war has no real enemy. There is a real enemy but really most of the people that they killed are actually good people. They too are fighting for some idiotic individual with an agenda.

So when I hear lines such as I feel good when I kill an Iraqi, it makes me disgusted that they do not think about who they are shooting. It’s like they are in a paint ball game where one shot and the other person goes out and you have scored a point for the team. This is real stuff. When a person is shot, they do not out of the game and then go back again for another game. They are out of the game permenantly. Sometimes, I just hope these soldiers who are over know realize that they are hurting citizens too and not just “liberating” them.

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